Are We in a Farm Crisis Or Seeing the Gap Between Good and Struggling Operations? — Shay Foulk

There’s a lot of noise in agriculture right now.

From ag media to Washington, depending on who you listen to, we’re either heading into a financial crisis… or standing on the edge of a golden age.

But what if the real story isn’t either of those?

In this episode, I sit down with Shay Foulk of Ag View Solutions — a farmer and consultant who works directly inside the numbers of real farm operations through Profit Manager and peer groups.

He’s not reacting to headlines. He’s seeing what’s actually happening.

We start with a simple but uncomfortable question:

Are we in a true crisis… or are we seeing a growing gap between strong operators and those that are struggling?

From there, the conversation moves into the places most farms don’t openly talk about:

•  Why some operations are pulling ahead while others are falling behind 

•  The reality of cost of production — and how many actually know it 

•  The disconnect between tax accounting and real decision-making 

•  How household spending quietly shapes farm profitability 

•  Why “people would rather be happy than informed” when it comes to their numbers 

•  The role of peer groups, accountability, and getting off the “island” 

We also get into the harder conversations around transition planning, family dynamics, and what happens when farms operate as families first and businesses second.

Shay brings a perspective shaped by farming, consulting, and military experience — blending discipline, preparation, and decision-making into how he approaches both business and life.

And by the end, we land somewhere different than where we started.

Maybe the golden age of agriculture isn’t something happening out there…

Maybe it’s something that gets built — or missed — on your own farm.

🔗 Connect with Shay Foulk & Ag View Solutions

Ag View Solutions:
 https://www.agviewsolutions.com/

Farm Profit Manager:
 https://farmprofitmanager.app/

Ag View Pitch Podcast:
 https://www.agviewsolutions.com/podcasts

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If you’d rather not chase these conversations on social media, I’ll send them your way.

Shaping the Story of Agriculture — A Conversation with Shaun Haney

When I started the Patio Pondering Podcast, there were a handful of conversations I hoped I might get to have someday. This is one of them.

In this episode, I sit down with Shaun Haney, founder of RealAgriculture, to talk about something a little different than production, nutrition, or markets.

We talk about how agriculture thinks about itself.

Shaun has spent the last 15+ years building RealAgriculture into one of the most recognized voices in ag media—starting with a camcorder and an instinct that the industry was ready for something different.

Our conversation covers:

•  What questions agriculture should be asking—but isn’t 

•  How RealAgriculture grew in what many saw as a “mature” media space 

•  The role of timing, technology, and simply getting started 

•  Why velocity and consistency matter more than perfection 

•  The challenge of balancing attention, depth, and relevance in today’s media environment 

•  How audience behavior—not intention—drives what gets covered 

We also spend time on Shaun’s role in the Friday Roundtable on AgriTalk AM with Chip Flory, and how his Canadian perspective shapes the way he interprets U.S. agriculture.

That leads into a broader discussion on:

•  The changing role of media in agriculture 

•  Why perspective matters as much as information 

•  The importance of hearing multiple viewpoints—even the ones we disagree with 

•  And where agriculture may be headed in the next 10 years 

Shaun also shares his personal journey—from production agriculture to media—and what it took to leave the farm and build something entirely different.

We wrap up with the Five Signature Questions, covering everything from Henry Wallace’s legacy to why agriculture may be one of the most capital-intensive, misunderstood industries in the world.

Closing Thought

This is not a conversation about how to farm better.

It’s a conversation about how we understand agriculture—and how that understanding shapes the decisions being made across the industry every day.

If you’re interested in how the story of agriculture gets told—and why that matters—this is one you’ll want to listen to.

If you’d rather not chase these conversations on social media, I’ll send them your way.

Seeing Risk from All Sides of the Desk - Anya Pinkerton

Agriculture runs on risk.

Weather. Markets. Policy. Input costs. And increasingly — the mental weight of managing all of it.

In this episode of the Patio Pondering Podcast, Jim sits down with Anya Pinkerton — a Purdue Animal Sciences graduate whose career has taken her through the USDA Farm Service Agency, agricultural lending, and now into leading a growing crop insurance business.

That perspective matters.

Because Anya has seen agriculture from multiple sides of the desk — and understands that risk isn’t just something you manage on paper… it’s something you carry.

This conversation explores:

•  How crop insurance has evolved from simple hail coverage to complex, revenue-based protection 

•  Why today’s farmers are using insurance as a strategic tool — not just catastrophic backup 

•  The growing importance of trust between farmers and their advisors 

•  How communication — not just data — determines whether risk is understood or ignored 

•  The mental and emotional weight of farming in an era of bigger numbers and tighter margins 

•  Why no two farms should approach risk the same way 

Along the way, Jim and Anya touch on leadership, mentorship, Purdue basketball, and the reality that sometimes the most important conversations in agriculture aren’t about production — they’re about perspective.

At its core, this episode is about one simple idea:

Risk doesn’t disappear. It gets shared, structured, and understood — or it gets ignored.

Five Signature Questions Included

As always, the episode closes with the Patio Pondering Five — covering lessons from agriculture, underappreciated truths, and small changes that could shape the future of the industry.

Stay Positive and Look Forward — Lessons from the Farm with Terry Sible

Terry Sible grew up on a farm outside Churubusco, Indiana, learning the same lessons many farm kids do: responsibility, patience, and the value of community.

At eighteen, Terry’s life took an unexpected turn. Just five years earlier he had lost his father in a farm accident in the same barn where Terry kept his 4-H livestock. But instead of letting those moments define him, he built a life centered on helping others.

Today Terry works with schools and families helping children with disabilities find success in the classroom. Terry may get around in a wheelchair, but it has never defined who he is. Instead, the patience, resilience, and sense of community he learned growing up on a farm in northwest Allen County continue to shape how he approaches life and the people he works with.

In this conversation we talk about growing up in 4-H and FFA, the farm community that rallied around him after his accident, raising kids, and the role patience and positivity still play in his life today.

Terry also answers the Patio Pondering Five Questions, sharing what agriculture taught him about resilience, community, and why farmers are always trying to do the right thing.

Leadership, Service, and the Power of a Pause — with Jill Zimmerman

Leadership in agriculture is often talked about as if it simply appears — the loudest voice in the room or the person willing to take charge.

But real leadership is something different. It can be cultivated, sharpened, and intentionally developed.

In this episode of the Patio Pondering Podcast, I sit down with Jill Zimmerman, President of the Kansas Agricultural and Rural Leadership (KARL) Program, to talk about how leadership actually develops in agriculture and rural communities.

Jill shares how programs like KARL help cultivate leaders across agriculture, rural communities, healthcare, education, and policy — and why leadership today requires collaboration, service, and a willingness to step forward.

Along the way we explore:

• How leadership in agriculture is evolving
 • Why raising your hand still matters in rural communities
 • The power of networks and relationships in agriculture
 • The importance of allowing “a pause in the noise” to sharpen our thinking
• How mentorship and encouragement shape future leaders

Plus Jill answers the Patio Pondering Five Questions, sharing lessons about passion for agriculture, leadership development, and the future of agricultural innovation.

Beef, Raw Milk, Rifles, and RFK Jr. — A Conversation with Brian McFarlane

In this episode of the Patio Pondering Podcast, Jim sits down with Brian McFarland, a longtime leader in the beef packing industry and a cattle producer with experience across multiple parts of the beef supply chain.

Jim and Brian first met years ago in graduate school at Kansas State, but their conversation quickly moves beyond old memories into the realities facing the beef industry today.

They discuss the shrinking U.S. cow herd, rising beef demand, and the economic challenges of rebuilding cattle numbers. Brian shares insights from his years inside packing plants at companies like Tyson, IBP, and JBS, explaining the major advances in food safety that have occurred over the past three decades.

Along the way the conversation wanders—as good agricultural conversations often do—into topics like cooking meat correctly, the rise of meat thermometers, raw milk debates, veterinary shortages, and even long-range rifles and bow hunting.

It’s a wide-ranging discussion that highlights how complex modern agriculture really is—and how much work happens behind the scenes to safely put food on the plate.

Topics include:

• Why the U.S. cow herd may take years to rebuild
 • The economics of cattle vs. crop farming
 • Beef-on-dairy genetics and how it changed the industry
 • The hidden food-safety systems inside modern packing plants
 • Why cooking meat properly matters more than people think
 • Challenges facing veterinary medicine in agriculture
 • Technology shaping agriculture’s future

Plus Brian answers the Patio Pondering Five Questions, sharing lessons about work ethic, innovation, and the future of agriculture.

Brian can be found on LinkedIn at:
linkedin.com/in/thebrianmcfarlane

His cold weather gear company can be found at:
https://shivershield.com/

Patio Pondering at 18 Months — The Three-Legged Stool

Over the past week something happened that made me stop and think about Patio Pondering.

At the Niman Ranch Annual Meeting, a young woman at a lunch table suddenly looked across the table and said, “Oh… you’re Patio Pondering.” The moment was unexpected, but it was not the only one. Throughout the week at the Midwest Animal Science Meetings and a Purdue alumni event, several people quietly shared that they had been reading or listening.

None of them had ever commented online.

But they were reading. They were listening.

That realization led to another reflection. This week Patio Pondering quietly passed its 18-month mark. In that time there have been more than 300 written reflections and 78 podcast episodes, reaching listeners and readers on every continent except Antarctica.

Somewhere along the way, without really planning it, Patio Pondering has developed a structure.

Like the old three-legged milk stools that sat in barns across the Midwest, it now stands on three legs:

• Writing
• Conversations
• Consulting

Together those three legs support a place to pause for a moment and think about agriculture.

This episode reflects on how Patio Pondering started, what it has become, and the simple goal behind it all:

Clear thinking for complex agriculture.

And apparently… the penguins are next.

Teaching Agriculture And Teaching Life - Dr. Travis Park

What does it take to turn a farm kid into a professor preparing the next generation of agricultural teachers?

In this episode of the Patio Pondering Podcast, Jim sits down with longtime friend and FarmHouse brother Dr. Travis Park of North Carolina State University.

Travis shares the path that took him from Trafalgar, Indiana and the Indian Creek FFA chapter to a national career in agricultural education.

Along the way the conversation explores:

• what new ag teachers really face when they enter the classroom

• why electives like FFA and band matter more than we often admit

• how agriculture survived the brain drain of the 1980s farm crisis

• the importance of resilience in both farming and education

• and how agriculture must balance tradition with global realities

Travis also reflects on raising three daughters, keeping honeybees in a suburban neighborhood, and why agriculture still requires a deep amount of faith.

As always, the episode closes with Jim’s five signature questions — covering everything from Booker T. Washington to the humble milking machine.

It’s a thoughtful conversation about leadership, education, and the people who shape agriculture’s future.

Hard Working. Determined. Strategic. — A Conversation with Jamee Krug Blahauvietz

In this episode of the Patio Pondering Podcast, Jim sits down with longtime friend and agricultural leader Jamee Krug Blahauvietz.

Jamee’s career path is anything but typical. Starting with a unique combination of journalism and animal science at Iowa State, she built a career that moved from agricultural advertising to leadership roles in major animal health companies including Elanco and Phibro.

The conversation begins with a simple question:
 How would three people describe you?

Jamee’s answer — Hard Working. Determined. Strategic. — becomes the thread that runs through the entire discussion.

Jim and Jamee explore:

• The unexpected path from restaurant manager to ag marketing
 • Lessons learned working inside both agency and corporate agriculture
• The strategy behind the well-known “Full Value” livestock campaigns
• Why legacy is one of the most powerful emotional drivers in agriculture
• How leadership in agriculture has evolved over the past 30 years
• The growing humanization of the agricultural workplace
• The balance between career ambition and family life

They also discuss how agriculture is adapting to new tools like AI, changing marketing channels, and new technology in livestock production.

The episode closes with the Patio Pondering tradition of five questions — touching on lessons from agriculture, innovation in livestock production, and one small change that could make a big difference for the future of the industry.

It’s a thoughtful conversation about leadership, legacy, and the people who make agriculture work.

Ryan Moe: Hope Is Not a Marketing Plan

In this milestone episode of the Patio Pondering Podcast, Jim sits down with Ryan Moe of StoneX for a conversation that moves beyond farm roots and into the harder questions of discipline, risk, and decision-making.

At what point does being good at production stop being enough?

Ryan shares how his early experience in energy hedging and commodity markets reshaped his thinking: raising crops or livestock well does not automatically mean managing risk well.

Together, they unpack:

• Why most producers avoid structured risk management

• The emotional trap of waiting for higher prices

• The disconnect between hedge accounts and checking accounts

• Why portfolio management beats home-run marketing

• The illusion of small-scale commodity profitability

• How AI and algorithmic trading are already shaping markets

• And why personal discipline may be agriculture’s greatest competitive edge

This episode challenges romantic narratives about farming and replaces them with something sturdier: clear thinking for complex agriculture.

If you produce commodities, manage market risk, or wrestle with marketing decisions each season, this conversation will sharpen your perspective.

Skip-Generation Farming: Clint Gorden’s Path Back to the Land

Clint Gorden, a central Illinois farmer, joins the Patio Pondering Podcast to discuss what it means to be a skip-generation farmer—connected to farming through grandparents, but without a parent actively farming to provide day-to-day guidance. Clint shares how he built his path through farm work, the seed business, and the relationships and mentorship that helped him earn opportunities in agriculture.

Jim and Clint explore the realities of modern Midwest farming, including aging farmers, larger operations with “more zeros,” the increasing importance of strategy in farming decisions, and how technology and broader networks influence learning, efficiency, and risk management.

Topics covered:

• What “skip-generation farmer” means in today’s agriculture

• Getting started in farming without a prior generation in the cab

• Seed sales, cold-calling, and building credibility

• Aging farmers and generational transition

• Why farming has become more strategic as operations grow

• Community involvement: Farm Bureau, Corn Growers, Lions Club

Recording note: This conversation ends earlier than planned due to a technical interruption. Jim and Clint plan to reconnect and continue the discussion in a future episode.

Snowboarding, Nano-Fertilizer, and Geopolitics: A Conversation with Clark Bell

What do snowboarding, nano-fertilizer, and geopolitics have to do with modern agriculture?

In this episode of the Patio Pondering Podcast, Jim talks with Clark Bell, CEO of NanoYield and former TEDx speaker, about his journey from working on his family’s sod farm to leading one of ag’s most intriguing nanotechnology companies.

Clark explains how nano-fertilizer and nanoparticle delivery systems help farmers improve nutrient uptake, optimize crop inputs, and rethink fertilizer strategies under mounting economic and environmental pressures.

The conversation explores:

• How nanotechnology works in crop production
 • Fertilizer use, nutrient uptake, and ROI in corn & soybeans
 • Specialty crops vs. commodity agriculture
 • Input cost pressures, global supply chains & geopolitics
 • Risk, resilience, and lessons from snowboarding
 • The importance of advisory teams for modern producers
 • Local innovation’s role in a global ag economy

This wide-ranging episode connects science, strategy, and real-world decision making — offering practical insight into technologies scaling across millions of acres.

Connect with Clark Bell:
🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/clarktbell/

🔗 NanoYield site: https://www.nano-yield.com/

🔗 NanoYield LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/nanoyield/

PRRS, Investment, and the Questions We Don’t Like Asking

Porcine Reproductive and Respiratory Syndrome (PRRS) remains one of the most costly and frustrating diseases in modern swine production. Despite decades of research, new technologies, and substantial industry investment, PRRS continues to disrupt herds and challenge producers.

In this reflective solo episode, Jim Smith explores the tension between producer frustration, the adaptive nature of the PRRS virus, and the scale of research funding dedicated to combating it. This thought piece examines difficult questions about expectations, investment levels, systemic consequences, and whether the pork industry is asking the right questions about PRRS.

This episode does not argue against PRRS control or pig health initiatives. Instead, it invites listeners to think more deeply about progress, economics, incentives, and the uncomfortable realities surrounding one of the swine industry’s most persistent challenges.

Be Careful What You Wish For — PRRS, Pig Survival, and the Risk of Too Much Success

In this solo episode of the Patio Pondering Podcast, Jim Smith explores an uncomfortable but necessary question facing the U.S. pork industry: are we actually prepared for success if PRRS were eliminated?

Drawing on decades of experience in swine nutrition and production, Jim reflects on the long arc of PRRS—from its early emergence in the Midwest to today’s massive investments in disease control and eradication. While improving pig health and reducing mortality is unquestionably the right goal at the farm level, this episode examines what happens when those gains occur across the entire system at once.

Using the 1998 hog market collapse as a cautionary parallel, Jim walks through the physical and economic constraints that still exist today: packing capacity, labor availability, market absorption, and demand response. What happens if millions more pigs survive to market weight—but the infrastructure and markets aren’t ready?

This episode is not an argument against animal health, veterinary innovation, or disease research. It is a systems-level conversation about unintended consequences, second-order effects, and why solving one constraint without planning for what comes next can shift pressure elsewhere.

If you’re involved in pork production, animal agriculture, agribusiness, or agricultural economics—and especially if you lived through 1998—this episode invites you to slow down and think about a question the industry rarely asks out loud:

What happens after we catch the car?

Dallas McDermott – Not Your Dad’s Ultrasound

In Episode 70 of the Patio Pondering Podcast, Jim Smith sits down with longtime friend and swine ultrasound innovator Dallas McDermott on the floor of the 2026 Iowa Pork Congress to talk about how ultrasound technology has quietly evolved—and why it matters more now than ever.

Ultrasound in the swine industry used to be about backfat, muscle depth, and seedstock selection. Today, it is something entirely different. Dallas, one of the last remaining certified swine ultrasound technicians in the U.S., explains how modern systems—paired with machine learning and AI—are now being used inside packing plants to measure intramuscular fat (IMF) at line speed.

That matters because pork loins, once a premium cut, have lost value due to inconsistent eating quality. Using ultrasound to measure IMF on carcasses—at 600 to 1,200 head per hour—allows packers to sort premium product in real time, improve consistency, and capture value that has been left on the table for years.

This conversation explores:

• Why pork loins lost their premium status and how eating quality drives demand

• How ultrasound and AI are reshaping carcass evaluation inside packing plants

• USDA-funded innovation aimed at helping small and mid-sized packers compete through quality, not scale

• What pork can learn from beef’s focus on marbling and consumer satisfaction

• The implications for genetics, niche programs, and future pork demand

As pork works to move beyond “the other white meat” and reposition itself as a premium protein, this episode highlights a quiet but important paradigm shift. If pork is going to compete for space on the consumer’s plate, it has to taste good—and this conversation explains how technology may help get us there.

This is not your dad’s ultrasound.

An Industry That Changed — and Events That Haven’t

In this solo episode of the Patio Pondering Podcast, recorded on the road in Des Moines after the first day of the Iowa Pork Congress, I share an observation that kept coming up in conversations across the trade show floor.

I didn’t hear much discussion about hog margins or markets — even with profitability where it is today. Instead, I kept hearing the same questions: Where are the farmers? Where are the decision makers? Is this still worth the investment?

Drawing on my first Iowa Pork Congress in 1999 and earlier experiences in the pork industry, I reflect on how much the structure of our industry has changed — larger operations, fewer decision makers, faster information flow, and tighter time constraints — while many of our events are still designed for an industry that no longer exists.

This episode isn’t about blame or nostalgia. It’s about alignment.

When purchasing decisions have consolidated and time has become one of the most valuable resources in agriculture, we owe it to the industry to ask hard questions about the return on investment of our trade shows, events, and gatherings.

The question isn’t whether these events still matter.

The question is whether we’re willing to evolve them.

Tight Margins and Tough Questions at the Fort Wayne Farm Show

This episode is my raw take from the Fort Wayne Farm Show. I intended to record more interviews, but the show floor was packed — so instead, I’m sharing what I saw, heard, and felt over three days.

We talk about the WASDE bombshell that set the tone for the week, how farmers are thinking about tightening belts in 2025, what suppliers are saying (and not saying), and whether biologicals have a place in a year of tight margins. I also dig into the gap between precision tech and real-world ROI, the growing skepticism toward USDA reporting, and why the pork industry currently looks a whole lot more optimistic than the crop side.

If you're trying to farm smart in a year of cautious spending and uncertain markets, this one’s worth a listen.

Diversification & Direct-to-Consumer with Mary Marsh Heigele

Join Jim at the Fort Wayne Farm Show for an energizing conversation with Mary Marsh Heigele from New Ag Supply in North Central Kansas. Mary brings a unique perspective on agriculture, having grown up in California's almond country and now farming wheat, corn, and cattle in Kansas with her husband Hayden.

In this episode, we explore:

• How New Ag Supply ships replacement planter parts nationwide (yes, even to Alaska and Hawaii!)

• Staying optimistic during challenging commodity prices

• Direct-to-consumer beef marketing as farm diversification

• Using your own corn to feed cattle as a value-added opportunity

• Cover crops as a gateway to thinking outside the traditional row crop box

• Off-farm income through photography and videography

• Real-world examples of farm diversification beyond the traditional corn-soy-wheat rotation

Mary shares honest insights about the current agricultural climate across the country and encourages farmers to explore diversification opportunities - whether that's different crops, livestock, or even leveraging skills like photography to support the farm operation.

Contact New Ag Supply:

• Website: newagsupply.com

• Phone: 620-938-7009

• Find them on Facebook, Twitter, and TikTok

Whether you're looking for quality replacement planter parts or inspiration to diversify your operation, this episode delivers practical ideas and genuine conversation about agriculture today.

“Don’t Be Asleep at the Wheel”: Corn Marketing Advice for 2026 with Aaron Kuhn

In this episode, Jim talks with Aaron Kuhn, Regional Manager with Poet Biorefining in Portland, Indiana, about market realities facing farmers as they head into the 2026 crop year. Coming off a sharp USDA report and entering the spring crop insurance pricing window, corn marketing decisions are getting tight — especially in the Eastern Corn Belt.

Aaron breaks down what he’s seeing in the countryside on old crop vs. new crop movement, why January–February brings forced sales due to cash flow, and how basis is behaving across Ohio and Indiana after a year of mixed yields. They also dig into how exports, the Brazil safrinha crop, and southeast feed demand influence local basis strength.

Jim and Aaron also tackle one of the biggest points of confusion in the market right now — the 45Z biofuel credit. Aaron explains why 45Z currently benefits biofuel plants but isn’t yet flowing value back to farmers, what’s holding up climate-smart scoring, and why sustainability incentives are still worth tracking.

Aaron closes with pragmatic advice for 2026: know your true cost of production, don’t fall asleep during potential rallies, and use target orders rather than emotional marketing.

The Silk Thread of Fragile Farm Profits

This solo episode starts with a memory from 1978 on the tailgate of my grandfather’s Ford pickup and ends with the blunt reality of 2025 farm bookkeeping and modern USDA market reports. What connects those pieces is uncomfortable: farming profitability has always been fragile.

My grandparents scraped through the Depression with $12.34 a month in recorded farm income. My grandfather warned me that “there’s no money in farming.” And nearly fifty years later, I’m running numbers with disaster assistance, government payments, and market swings driven by noon WASDE releases. Different decades, different tools, different programs — same fragility.

In this episode I talk about:
 • Why profitability remains fleeting across generations
 • What USDA reports actually do to real farm margins
 • How disaster programs distort our view of survivability
 • The emotional weight behind farm financial decisions
 • Why the “zeros” changed, but the struggle didn’t
 • The uncomfortable continuity between 1930 and 2025

If you’ve ever felt the stress of bookwork, market reactions, or the silence that comes after a USDA report moves the board — you’re not alone. The tools and programs change, but the story is older than any of us.